it costs billions of dollars every year it's one of the reasons why you have such a huge government deficit and and and it contributes to an inefficient labor market . and a very sad you know stupidly subsidized distorting system what would be available is think i'm sorry. certainly while i was wonder what would be appropriate if we were to establish something like you're suggesting here in the united states where it's universal everybody has a whether they work or not unconditional. for every man woman and child what would be a foundational amount of this thomas paine amount what would what would be the amount that each person should get in your mind as a minimum we have just a minute i think. yeah i think i think one would have to. develop it it according to the country and what we say is in fact you have to build towards the base is going to come gradually converting your existing social transfers your means tested benefits like snap and so on into an unconditional benefits and put them together so that you would gradually move to paying a subsistence standard of living i can imagine for